Has Anyone Ever Tried Something Similar to This?

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Lately I have been researching and digging through old bonsai texts, particularly old Chinese accounts. I can only read English, so that limits me to early western accounts of bonsai or dwarfed trees in China and Japan.

Time and again, I come across accounts of them air layering and using honey and sugar as a tool to attract ants and flies to help age and deform the bark. I was curious if anyone had ever attempted to replicate this method?

Here is a more in-depth account from 1847:

"The cultivation of the dwarf trees is divided into two parts -- that of the fruit and forest trees. That of the fruit trees rests upon a process already partly known in Europe; but of which the application is different. At the moment when a tree is in flower, the Chinese cultivator chooses a branch. It is well understood that he selects that which presents the most fantastic forms; he makes two circular notches, in a manner to raise a ring of bark of the length of about an inch; upon the part uncovered he applies fresh earth, that is held to it by means of a piece of cloth; each day he moistens the earth; soon the bark at the incision throws out roots, the branch becomes a tree, its fruit swells and ripens. Then the gardener cuts the branch at the end of the packet of earth, and plants it in a pot to send to the market. It is rare that this operation does not obtain a complete success. The fruit trees raised in this manner are in general the Litchi (Dimocarpus litchi,) the delicious fruit of China; the Carambol, with octagonal fruit; the Lon-gan, a kind of Plum; the Orange, the Apple, Pear, Ficus indica, and a tree sacred in the pagodas, of which the fruit, a kind of Citron (Citrus medica, var. ?) is called by the Chinese, Hand of Foo, because it has the form of hand that the bonzes give to this god. The dwarfed trees are destined in general to ornament the pagodas, and the shops of the merchants on holidays.

The cultivation of the forest trees, dwarfed, demands more care. It is not only in this case to get ready a branch, but it is a struggle they undertake with Nature, which consists in making hideous that which Nature has created beautiful, to lame and deform that which she has made straight and well looking, to render mean and unhealthy that which she has produced vigorous and robust. The trees submitted to this system of stunting, are generally the Bamboo, the Cypress, and the Elm; the same as with the fruit trees, they choose a little branch as knotty and twisted as they possibly can find; they raise a ring of bark, and surround it with vegetable mould; at the same time they prune the tree of its handsomest branches, only preserving those which are zigzag; they then cauterise the wounds with hot iron. This first operation terminated, the gardener devotes all his care to his work, up to the day that he is satisfied of the presence of some roots. This success obtained, his kindness is changed to cruelty; from this day he refuses water to his charge, and it is only when he sees it nearly perishing, when its leaves fade, and turn yellow, that he consents to moisten a little the earth which keeps it alive; he cuts off the leaves, and only allows a few at the extremity of the branch to remain.

"The tree thus treated, rests between life and death; it shrivels and bows its head, until the return of the sap; at this moment its state appears likely to be ameliorated; it is watered each day, its health is about to return; but, alas! for the tree, these attentions are but preliminary to further cruelties. The sap flows in abundance, and then the Chinaman makes at various distances transverse incisions, some almost circular. These cuttings continued, stop the ascent of the sap, which coagulating upon the wounds, causes swellings of bark frightful to behold; but which rejoices the eye of the Chinaman. When the time of the sap is passed, they put the shrub in regime. They then make new notches upon it, but perpendicular this time. They raise with a knife the bark near these notches, and introduce in the one honey, in the other sugar, in some colors, and even acid. Attracted by the smell, thousands of ants and flies come and gnaw, and prick the bark of the tree, while on the other side the acid burns and destroys wherever it touches. At length, after this treatment, when the branch has become a veritable monstrosity, covered with lichens, lumps, and deformities, and is recognised as capable of supporting its pitiful existence, they detach it from the tree; they shake away the earth that surrounds it, to place in a vase having the form of a large square jam-pot; the earth is then replaced by little gravel stones, that are just in number sufficient to maintain the tree straight in its pot. All the care necessary for the future is to moisten lightly the stones, when the plant appears to suffer.

"The trees stunted in this manner, are very much prized by the mandarins, and are sold at a high price; but what is surprising is the extreme longevity they acquire. It is not rare that they attain 100 and 200 years.”
 
1st paragraph....Air layering is a common practice...and an excellent way to get a head start on new material

as to the rest...interesting reading but not really recommend techniques:)

his kindness is changed to cruelty; from this day he refuses water to his charge, and it is only when he sees it nearly perishing, when its leaves fade, and turn yellow, that he consents to moisten a little the earth which keeps it alive; he cuts off the leaves, and only allows a few at the extremity of the branch to remain.

Prized or not, this is just non-sense in my book...we know now that the trees we cultivate do their very best when they are healthy and growing robustly... Even with "finished" trees, health is of prime importance! Withholding water is just nuts in my book...potentially one bad day of watering sets a tree back in its development an entire growing season. It took me years before I ever achieved an entire growing season without significant water fails...

As to the last paragraph...character and interest are important parts of the aesthetics of the trees we grow. We use selective pruning, wire and carving to do this work today.
 
1st paragraph....Air layering is a common practice...and an excellent way to get a head start on new material

as to the rest...interesting reading but not really recommend techniques:)



Prized or not, this is just non-sense in my book...we know now that the trees we cultivate do their very best when they are healthy and growing robustly... Even with "finished" trees, health is of prime importance! Withholding water is just nuts in my book...potentially one bad day of watering sets a tree back in its development an entire growing season. It took me years before I ever achieved an entire growing season without significant water fails...

As to the last paragraph...character and interest are important parts of the aesthetics of the trees we grow. We use selective pruning, wire and carving to do this work today.

Thanks for your reply johng.

I understand modern techniques have evolved and the importance of watering and having a healthy tree. I am not looking to apply the method above to my trees.

My research into old texts is more of an exercise to see if there are old methods or techniques that have been lost to time. Using honey or sugar to attract ants was my main question and I was curious if anyone had heard of or tried that method. It seemed like a unique way to gain character and uniqueness on an air layered branch. And it seemed to be very common in China during the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries because I have come across that same method from multiple different sources at different periods.

Also the way I read it, they withhold water from the air layer (the branch is still attached to the tree) in order to reduce the flow of sap and then begin watering again and as the sap begins to flow, they make incisions which causes the sap to coagulate and swell the bark thus creating more character. I have no idea how this ultimately affects the health of the tree, and I cannot imagine that is anything but unhealthy for it. But I thought it was an interesting approach.
 
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I think the ant part sounds interesting for sure, if it works I would be interested in knowing too. It´s a bit like fire, sounds like a rather organic approach which at the very least is different.

Do you have a link or name for the text that was from?
 
I think the ant part sounds interesting for sure, if it works I would be interested in knowing too. It´s a bit like fire, sounds like a rather organic approach which at the very least is different.

Do you have a link or name for the text that was from?

Starfox: That account came from: The Horticulturist, and Journal of Rural Art and Rural Taste, Vol. I, No. 7, January 1847, pp. 337-338.
 
Certain species of ants "farm" aphids. Encourage aphids to spread, protect them from predators etc. The ants extract honey-do from the aphids as a food source. I wouldn't put anything on my trees that might encourage these kind of ants to colonize nearby.
 
I have heard of done who introduced termites to a few trees to carve deadwood.

Interesting reading, I suppose, but some ancient techniques are best left in the past. Medical doctors used to apply leaches to patients. I think we're past that kind of thing today.
 
Interesting from the standpoint of historical beliefs.


Otherwise, seems like mumbo-jumbo to me.
 
I have heard of done who introduced termites to a few trees to carve deadwood.

Interesting reading, I suppose, but some ancient techniques are best left in the past. Medical doctors used to apply leaches to patients. I think we're past that kind of thing today.
Actually, I worked in a hospital known for its excellent treatment of trauma and burn patients, and there was one patient who was treated with leeches. :eek: I saw them myself. Huge suckers! But I agree with you. Some techniques are best left in the past.
 
There are some on here advocating witholding of H2O from trees which is complete ignorance:rolleyes:. Easier to limit fertilizer than try to balance life and death with lack of H2O.
 
Actually, I worked in a hospital known for its excellent treatment of trauma and burn patients, and there was one patient who was treated with leeches. :eek: I saw them myself. Huge suckers! But I agree with you. Some techniques are best left in the past.

Maggots are used to clean dead tissue from burn patients. Some old ways work best even if not these brutal Bonsai techniques.
 
Yup. Sifu,

leeches are still used.

BonsaiMobius,

this is why the Chinese shifted to the philosophies that deal with Clip and Grow [ Lingnan ]

Even in the 16th or 17th Centuries in China, at least one Chinese writer, Speaks out against the
crippling of trees.
Apparently the writer was well off enough to purchase trees and release them back into his estate.

What you may find more useful is studying Health, for trees kept in small % of soil.

I am reading through a book, that explains how raw fertilizers, burn and kill the beneficial microbes
that work with the tree's roots. How these microbes supply the N. P. K plus micro nutrients to the tree's
roots and in doings so aid the tree in defending itself and staying healthy.

So the bit that was read about keeping trees x inches apart so they cannot touch, exposure to full sun,
if they can handle it, good ventilation, and no same types next to each other i.e no stand filled with say Fukien tea shrubs.
Has served us well down in the Tropics.
Now to tend more intensively to the soil.

Getting the trees to keep their selves - Healthy.
From the Lazy Bonsaist
Good Day
Anthony

*Remember land under cultivation needs 6" of compost as a covering every year, if not allowed to rest every other year.
AND no tilling [ factor into Bonsai - only bareroot when absolutely necessary.]
So a composted oil bean fertiliser, boosted if needed with bone meal or rice hulls and maybe blood meal or other.
 
Thanks for your reply johng.

I understand modern techniques have evolved and the importance of watering and having a healthy tree. I am not looking to apply the method above to my trees.

My research into old texts is more of an exercise to see if there are old methods or techniques that have been lost to time. Using honey or sugar to attract ants was my main question and I was curious if anyone had heard of or tried that method. It seemed like a unique way to gain character and uniqueness on an air layered branch. And it seemed to be very common in China during the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries because I have come across that same method from multiple different sources at different periods.

Also the way I read it, they withhold water from the air layer (the branch is still attached to the tree) in order to reduce the flow of sap and then begin watering again and as the sap begins to flow, they make incisions which causes the sap to coagulate and swell the bark thus creating more character. I have no idea how this ultimately affects the health of the tree, and I cannot imagine that is anything but unhealthy for it. But I thought it was an interesting approach.

Jeez, uh no. smearing honey and sugar on air layers to attract ants to deform bark is silly. Applying "acid" to the same is similar to applying poison. Acid, if it's strong enough to deform bark, would INHIBIT root growth. The most effective way to get an air layer with character now is the same as it was back then--CHOOSE A BRANCH WITH CHARACTER FROM THE BEGINNING.

Some things that are "lost" to time are sometimes better left unrecovered, or they have been discredited. Given the "silly chinaman" style of the article and complete misunderstanding of bonsai as whole by the author, I would say his observations about particular bonsai practices are pretty ignorant or, more politely-- uninformed--as well. The idea that Chinese and Japanese cultures "tortured" plants and animals, as well as humans was rampant back when this text was written as the Wests pried open eastern markets.

Also, put this in perspective scientifically. The now well-understood fact that microbes cause diseases was only a theory in 1848, as were many other of the science we take for granted today. So add in generally low-levels of understanding of biological processes into the mix and you have a pretty shaky foundation for practicing bonsai now using old texts.

The fact that the stuff you're reading was translated into English from Chinese and Japanese back in the day is another big negative. Having worked for a Japanese company for a while, I know quite a lot of information is literally "lost in translation" because of nuances that aren't conveyed by simple words. True going both ways--from English to Japanese and especially Japanese to English.

The thought that we've "lost" stuff to history is true in only a fraction of examples. Such things are anecdotal at best if they're true. Just because it's old and "traditional" doesn't make it superior or worthwhile.
 
@M. Frary do you use a palm hammer?

The honey and sugar to have bugs mess with the tree is very interesting but really?
 
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Honey and a chipping hammer.

Sorce
 
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